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Post by GPA2196 » Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:57 pm

Hello guys,

Does anybody know of anybody reproducing the Voltmeter Plate? I have two originals I've been working on, but due to the low relief of the lettering they are not coming out as crisp as the Data Plates and Fire warning plates.... any thoughts?

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Post by fordgpa » Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:03 am

GPA2196 wrote:Hello guys,

Does anybody know of anybody reproducing the Voltmeter Plate? I have two originals I've been working on, but due to the low relief of the lettering they are not coming out as crisp as the Data Plates and Fire warning plates.... any thoughts?

Thanks,
Tony

Tony ,
Robert de Ruyter is making them ,he lives in the Netherlands and makes great repro data plates I will look up his email and post it asap.

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Post by leo verhagen » Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:24 am

Tony, Peter,

Robert has a great website:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~rdrnl/dataplates.htm

I don't know if the GPA voltmeter and fire caution plates are allready available, they are not mentioned on his site.
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Post by Donovan » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:43 pm

Everyone,

Robert is working on reproducing the Voltmeter plate but as yet hasn't created a reproduction. He is trying to restore mine but I have not heard from him on whether it was successful. The other common jeep plates he produces are excellent.

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Post by bobassel » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:46 pm

Tony

I know Robert is working on the voltmeter and bilge plate.
He has perfect copies of the other ones.
The "early" and the "late" models.

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Post by GPA2196 » Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:48 pm

Thanks guys for all the responses..... I will check him out.

Bob, What is the Bilge Plate?

I have the

Serial Number Plate

Marine Operation Plate

Voltmeter Plate

3 Fire Warning Plates (1X Gasoline in compartment and 2X of the longer text ones... I believe the shorter text one goes under the rear seat, and the other two go on the dash and in the engine compartment.

Permissible Speed Plate

Shift Plate...

any others for a GPA with the big Marine Operation Plate or what is called the late setup?



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Post by leo verhagen » Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:59 am

Tony,

Look at the bottom center plate, this is the early type bilge plate.
The left plate is the late type version.

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Post by GPA2196 » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:42 am

Ahhh yes... was getting my early and lates mixed up... I am going with the later plates so I think I'm good.... My Dash had the wholes for both...

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Post by bobassel » Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:34 pm

Tony & others
Here a picture of the early dash.
My GPA 4928 went direct to South Africa and was
never modified to later American standards.
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Note:
Wooden bar between clutch pedal and steering coulomb, to keep clutch plate free.
No "engine cooling plate".
Ford tag on radio filter box.
no antenna brackets, but already bolts to hold side coams.
No radio plates right on dash
ignition key.
same lever length of propellor and bilge.
old style windscreen rubber.
No "Ford" above nomenclature plate.
Long needle fuel gauge.

Bob
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Post by GPA2196 » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:48 am

Bob,

Did it have two wiper motors originally? I thought there was only supposed to be one on both early and late? I could be mistaken.... I'm building mine with one wiper motor. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Post by GPA2196 » Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:42 am

One other quick things with the Voltmeter plates. All the pics on the internet I see have the voltmeter plate looking brass... I have two that appear to be aluminum or some other whiteish metal, I guess similar to the fire plates.... Are there early and late voltmeter plates? I know these are originals as I removed them from the dashboards myself. I believe one of them came from GPA 11XXX

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Post by Donovan » Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:18 pm

Tony,

On my GPA (late version), the fire and voltmeter plates are zinc, the marine ops and ID plate are brass, and the transmission/transfercase operation and caution plates are steel.

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Post by GPA2196 » Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:54 pm

Thanks for the information Donovan. How is your GPA coming along?

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Wiper motors

Post by bobassel » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:24 pm

Hello Tony
Yes you are right!, one wiper motor is original.
But when you are in a rainy country like here in Holland
your passenger has soon enough from wiping by hand!
I try to rebuilt my GPA as original as posible but I made
some compromises.
Like the extra electric bilge pump , extra wiper motor and the late
model crankcase / valve cover ventilation system.
When you have the early open pipe model you get the dirty
gases to breath when you are driving or sailing.
On my GPA only the voltmeter plate & bilge plate were brass.
All the others were made from iron.

Greetings Bob
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Post by Guest » Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:34 am

Tony,

Your welcome.

The restoration is going slowly as I am still waiting for the hull. I am still looking for some pieces if you have any extra. The one piece that I seem to have trouble finding is the bottom half of the radiator shroud. The other pieces I am having made or repairing what I have. I test how things fit on my frame set-up (I have axles, engine, trans, and transfercase all mounted) and then paint, get appropriate nuts & bolts and then package up for when the hull is complete.

I am also getting the dashboard ready but do not want to install gauges until the plates are on (I do not think it is wise to drive rivets on the dashboard with original gauges present). I am waiting for Robert to either fix my voltmeter plate or reproduce them and I am not quite sure if my marine ops plate and ID plate are good enough to mount. A lot of little issues. Slowly but surely it will be done. My hope is summer of 2007 that it will be operational and a swimming we will go!!!

Take care,

Donovan.

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